A first: I quote Mike Huckabee in all seriousness, because I think he's right. And because I want to make the point that the same--admittedly oversimplified, but pertinent-- lesson applies to liberals. And you can quote me.
Democrats have to believe that their candidate is better than the person they want to defeat. If they get so adamant that they will only support a candidate who promises everything on their checklist, they will elect ________________(Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, etc.) - Nance
I have been catching some flack on the blog pages of my friends lately. In fact, all my liberal friends who have blog pages have been catching flack from their friends; there's no opinion so elevated, so reasonable, so obvious that it won't be attacked. Everybody is pissed at the president. Everybody is scared. Everybody is losing sight of the larger picture. Everybody is seriously about to hand 2012 to the tea party.
And, before you jump straight to the Comments to swing at my head, I assure you I've long been listening carefully. And reading prodigiously (I promise I won't quote you, here; I'll stick to people who get paid to be quoted).
I'll even quote Yul Brenner from "The King And I" (and not for the last time in this series of posts), "Et cet-e-RAH, et cet-e-RAH, et cet-e-RAH!" I get it. And I don't have to read to learn that Mr. Obama has disappointed; I can ask me. When I do, what I keep hearing is, "Dang it, Mr. O, sir, stop acting like yourself and start acting like ___________(insert cariacatured Democratic hero, without examining record fully).
It's a long way to November, 2012, and a lot can change, but so far this race boils down to values. I wish that weren't the case; I would much rather it be about choosing between specific proposals to solve problems that we all recognize and can agree on. Instead, to this point, finding someone who agrees with you on the problems is almost as hard as finding someone who agrees with you on which solutions to try. And there's an obvious reason for that. We've never been in this particular, ugly situation before (economy, energy, population, climate, security and the rule of law--all on the line globally) and, in our stress, we face a threat that all systems face under extreme pressure: that we will disintegrate rather than cope.
This presidential campaign is shaping up to be about vague, broad-brushed polarities. Ideology vs. pragmatism. Theistic government vs. humanistic government. Science vs. faith. Inclusivity vs. exclusivity. Rigidity vs. adaptability. Compromise vs. contest. President Obama didn't expect this; he gave the American people too much credit for levelheadedness. He still seems to be shaking his head over it. Maybe he figured, if we were smart enough as a country to know we needed him in '08, we're smart enough to see through the smoke screens of politics. I wish we were. I mean to be.
What I see is that, puzzled as he is, out-maneuvered as he may be when both his friends and his enemies take aim at him, the President consistently chooses the option that permits functional government...as if, as long as one side chooses functionality, the other will eventually recover good sense and get to work with him...as if his critics in Congress actually desired a working government. The alternative, that he take the equivalent opposite position from the right wing extremists, invites the unthinkable. Think about that.
Obama's moves indicate a willingness to play chess, not fling the board at the opponent and stalk out. The Left is angry because they want him to know how to win in one swift, devastating move, but our government is about checks and balances, not checkmate. It's designed to put differences to work for the sake of national well-being through a process of negotiation and compromise. It's worked before, even in bad times, because those who were charged to govern were willing to do so. What option is there for a sitting president who values America than that he do his best to finesse the game?
Given that, my choice is clear and obvious. I'm pulling for the guy who's trying to pull us together into a government that works. I think that Obama's commitment to serviceable government makes him better than those who'll see it all brought down to ashes if that's the only way to win. Maybe that's a value that Independents, Democrats, and Progressives can agree on. That's the value I plan to work for and vote for.
[Landscaping 2012 will be a series of posts over the next fifteen months. For those of you who hate politics and want to avoid it, I'll make it easier for you by labeling posts that way. When there's no label, there'll be the randomness that usually marks this blog.]
“That the nation’s first black president defends separate but equal in the context of same-gender intimacy is bitterly ironic.” - Randall Kennedy, The Persistence of The Color Line.
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It would have been a defining issue for the President to use to show whose side he’s on (the middle and working class) and whose side the Republicans are on (not the middle and working class).
It makes him look weak — Republicans got everything they wanted. And when a President looks weak, he is weak. - Robert Reich
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The president of the United States is supposed to salve our frustrations, not meekly bemoan his own.
Shouldn’t he or someone in his inner circle have foreseen the potential for events unfolding in such a humiliating fashion and made sure to avoid it? Apparently no one did, and that suggests a deficit of smarts by almost any definition of that ludicrously imprecise term. - Frank Bruni, NYTimes Sunday Review Opinion Pages.
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Does Obama have an environmental bottom line? I cannot discern it. - Bill Snape, Center for Biological Diversity
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The squabble began with President Obama looking petty and partisan and ended with House Speaker John Boehner looking churlish and disrespectful. If the two had gotten together to figure out how to make Americans think even less of Washington politicians, they couldn’t have done much better. - Ruth Marcus, TheWP
I'll even quote Yul Brenner from "The King And I" (and not for the last time in this series of posts), "Et cet-e-RAH, et cet-e-RAH, et cet-e-RAH!" I get it. And I don't have to read to learn that Mr. Obama has disappointed; I can ask me. When I do, what I keep hearing is, "Dang it, Mr. O, sir, stop acting like yourself and start acting like ___________(insert cariacatured Democratic hero, without examining record fully).
It's a long way to November, 2012, and a lot can change, but so far this race boils down to values. I wish that weren't the case; I would much rather it be about choosing between specific proposals to solve problems that we all recognize and can agree on. Instead, to this point, finding someone who agrees with you on the problems is almost as hard as finding someone who agrees with you on which solutions to try. And there's an obvious reason for that. We've never been in this particular, ugly situation before (economy, energy, population, climate, security and the rule of law--all on the line globally) and, in our stress, we face a threat that all systems face under extreme pressure: that we will disintegrate rather than cope.
This presidential campaign is shaping up to be about vague, broad-brushed polarities. Ideology vs. pragmatism. Theistic government vs. humanistic government. Science vs. faith. Inclusivity vs. exclusivity. Rigidity vs. adaptability. Compromise vs. contest. President Obama didn't expect this; he gave the American people too much credit for levelheadedness. He still seems to be shaking his head over it. Maybe he figured, if we were smart enough as a country to know we needed him in '08, we're smart enough to see through the smoke screens of politics. I wish we were. I mean to be.
What I see is that, puzzled as he is, out-maneuvered as he may be when both his friends and his enemies take aim at him, the President consistently chooses the option that permits functional government...as if, as long as one side chooses functionality, the other will eventually recover good sense and get to work with him...as if his critics in Congress actually desired a working government. The alternative, that he take the equivalent opposite position from the right wing extremists, invites the unthinkable. Think about that.
Obama's moves indicate a willingness to play chess, not fling the board at the opponent and stalk out. The Left is angry because they want him to know how to win in one swift, devastating move, but our government is about checks and balances, not checkmate. It's designed to put differences to work for the sake of national well-being through a process of negotiation and compromise. It's worked before, even in bad times, because those who were charged to govern were willing to do so. What option is there for a sitting president who values America than that he do his best to finesse the game?
Given that, my choice is clear and obvious. I'm pulling for the guy who's trying to pull us together into a government that works. I think that Obama's commitment to serviceable government makes him better than those who'll see it all brought down to ashes if that's the only way to win. Maybe that's a value that Independents, Democrats, and Progressives can agree on. That's the value I plan to work for and vote for.
[Landscaping 2012 will be a series of posts over the next fifteen months. For those of you who hate politics and want to avoid it, I'll make it easier for you by labeling posts that way. When there's no label, there'll be the randomness that usually marks this blog.]

I think republicans criticize Obama to defeat him. I think Democrats criticize Obama to improve him. It's a fundamental difference.
ReplyDeleteHere's my biggest fear. Those liberals who are disappointed in President Obama are not going to vote against him. They are just not going to vote. You know those tea partiers will get out the vote. In that way, we are handing the 2012 election to the nuts.....by default. That is just not acceptable.
ReplyDeleteI am an independent voter. Gave up on the Democratic Party about seven years ago. But...I will not hand this election over to any one of the mealy mouthed crackpots on the Right. I have my differences with this President but none so serious that I would vote for anyone with the kind of diminished mental capacity that brands them as Republicans. I'm quite proud to have an intellectual President...and I want to keep him around as long as possible so that I can disagree with him as much as I want. And be able to agree when the situation requires it. I'm looking forward to that.
ReplyDeleteJerry Critter,
ReplyDeleteWelcome!
"I think Democrats criticize Obama to improve him." Such a concise response and well put. I've been thinking about your point, myself, and have begun a post on it. The question I want to address is whether this effort within the party has the desired effect. I look forward to your input on it when I've got it ready.
alwaysinthebackrow,
Exactly and you put it with such spirit!
Steven,
" I'm quite proud to have an intellectual President...and I want to keep him around as long as possible so that I can disagree with him as much as I want." Yes! We do find it more pleasant to reason with a reasonable man, even when he cannot hear us. Somehow, I don't hesitate to write him when I have something I wish he would hear. I've no idea that he ever hears it, but I never once tried writing to Bush. Isn't that interesting?
I am looking forward to reading your post.
ReplyDeleteYour comment about not writing to Bush is interesting. I know what you mean. Bush was not interested in what the people had to say. I think Obama is...I think.
"It makes him look weak..."
ReplyDeleteRealizing the rules on how Washington is run are complex and very byzantine I would feel much better about defending Obama to disgruntled liberals and progressives it for once he showed some spine. Being president is a tough job and it was a mistake to believe Obama could fox everything overnight.
But realistically it maybe beside the point. In the military I was taught to take command breathing hellfire and brimstone to the point everyone under me was scared shitless. Then after establishing my position I was able to show a more human side.
Obama never established is position after taking office and in fact went out of his way to placate the most extreme republicans.
The worst thing about my "theory" is that I was also taught that if you fail to take charge from the start and your underlings start taking advantage of you there is no second chance. Once your underlings lose respect/fear they own you and you will never get it back.
"I think that Obama's commitment to serviceable government makes him better than those who'll see it all brought down to ashes if that's the only way to win." This idea, as expressed so eloquently in Shiera's (? hope I got the name right) post about Fredrick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln has gone a long way towards calming some of my disheartedness (is that a word?) in our president.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to talk about Michelle Bachmann, et al, without sounding like a conspiracy theorist. But I can't get over the feeling that their "pre-campaining" campaign is in fact a political smokescreen for further hi-jinx. And while I'm on the subject, giving the American people the benefit of the doubt seems like a bad idea...I know I'm not that smart, but not having tv gives me a chance to sort things out. It's hard to like the president (or not like the person running against him) when the wise-cracking brother on your favorite show makes a good point for the other guy.
That being said, an awful lot of the grumblings about him not living up to his promises seem like they are actually about him not living up to expectations. What many people heard was "I will bring our soldiers home, and the war will be over." What he actually said was more like "I will pull our troops out of Iraq, and expand the conflict in Afghanistan." Reality and expectations are two separate things.
Beach Bum,
ReplyDeleteI've been reading an article in TimeMag about vets returning home with unique leadership skills. They are of all political stripes, but they are also a band of brothers and sisters who are used to aiming those skills at a mission and to cooperating to an end. They believe they are too disciplined and too mission oriented (including "hearts and minds" missions) to fall into the kind of disarray that marks this Congress. They have leadership roles in mind and are building their résumés.
I think you've hit on a misstep in Obama's early positioning. On the other hand, he got an enormous amount done in that first year...accomplishments that we forget about in the crisis driven, news driven atmosphere.
In this case, if he wins 2012, perhaps he does get a second chance...particularly if he feels the wind at his back.
Jeffrey,
"...an awful lot of the grumblings about him not living up to his promises seem like they are actually about him not living up to expectations." That's a smart statement. Mr. Obama was the Chauncey Gardiner ("Being There") of the millennium...only with much more there, there...we all wrote our own version of him based on our needs. And those were some profound needs.
Everybody is pissed at the president. Everybody is scared. Everybody is losing sight of the larger picture. Everybody is seriously about to hand 2012 to the tea party.
ReplyDeleteWell, it's not everybody. Polls show that Obama remains broadly popular on the mainstream left. The attacks from the left are coming from a noisy minority who have no more grasp of political reality than the teabaggers do.
Most of the things they castigate Obama for not doing, either (a) could not have gotten through Congress in the face of Republican obstructionism, or (b) would have lost more votes in the center than they would have won on the far left.
That doesn't mean the problem isn't real. What happened in 2010 wasn't a pendulum swing back to the right but rather a collapse of voter turn-out (38% vs 62% in 2008). That was what allowed Republicans to win so many seats and offices and do so much damage. The people who didn't vote in 2010 have blood on their hands just as much as the teabaggers do.
Trouble is, it's hard to see what can be done about it. The anti-Obama fulminators of the hard left vehemently reject any effort to remind them of what Obama has accomplished or to point of how much worse any Republican alternative would be. They seem to need something to be enraged about. They really would hand over the country to evil in order to punish imperfect good. There's some kind of weird psychology operating there that I don't claim to understand.
Sensible politicians, of course, will regard such extremists as a write-off (their votes can't be won except by doing things which would lose more votes elsewhere, and maybe not even then), and will focus on making up the deficit by broadening their appeal to the center.
Let me recommend a couple of excellent blogs on this problem: Smartypants and Angry Black Lady.
Love the Landscaping 2012 tagline. (You might want to make it an actual Blogger label, if you haven't already -- and tag THIS post with it. :))
ReplyDeleteAmerican civil discourse since the mid-20th century, I fear, has been too much influenced by the evil of the bad guys and the virtuousness of the heroes. This is true on both sides of the equation; which side is deemed "correct" in a given election cycle seems to depend more on which side offers the better, more articulate story line -- irrespective of its ties to reality. And this fondness for story line in politics mirrors (or is mirrored by) our fondness for it in pop culture. Brutes vs. (secretly powerful) victims. Leering Nazi archaeologists vs. bullwhip-wielding college professors. Robots, apes, and extraterrestrials against humans (with switches between heroes and villains, depending on the plot and audience)... Every story we're exposed to (except for the preciously literary ones, haha) repeats the same lessons to us, over and over and over.
This is one thing (aside from money) which keeps smart, reasonable people from running for office. They know every stupid little thing they've ever done will be fair game for exploitation by the media, often, and -- always -- by the other side. At the same time, everything good they've ever even touched, even glancingly, will be played up immodestly by their own supporters. Nothing about that scenario sounds smart, and none of it sounds reasonable. So we end up electing (on one hand) non-smart unreasonable people or (on the other) pleasant, unblemished ciphers. (And I'm NOT saying which side is which.)
Obama seems smart and he seems reasonable. He seems to have a lot more patience than I would. (Eventually he often cracks and says something which makes me go Yes! Yes! and pump my fist. But he says it almost ruefully, like Edgar Kennedy rubbing his face in exasperation in one of the old Our Gang comedies. You can almost hear him thinking, "These kids... these kids... They DRIVE ME CRAZY, gosh darn them!")
But the Democrats have been at the cannibalistic thing a long time now. They admire the GOP for its ability to get everyone in the party to line up and march in step to victory, and think, or say, that the answer is to respond in kind. That may in fact be the answer. But if you require of your tumultuous, multi-ethnic party of Jeffersonians, bureaucrats, bleeding hearts, and Clintonian triangulators that they nominate and vote for only those candidates -- and support only those eventual winners -- who match up perfectly with everyone on "our" side, well... The battlefield is gonna be littered with a hell of a lot of Blue-uniformed corpses. Many of them candidates, or would-be candidates. And the actual enemy won't even have left their tents yet.
In my opinion, if politics were run according to the values of real families rather than the values of Sun Tzu we'd be better off as a society. Indulge one another's foibles and imperfections. Send offenders to bed without dinner. Take repeat offenders for intense counseling. Go on vacations together. Work in the yard and paint rooms together. (Well, that last one isn't always a good idea for married couples, ha.) Mourn those who pass, and celebrate the arrival of newcomers -- as well as the alliances that result in further newcomers downstream.
Maybe it'd be more boring. I dunno. But maybe we'd be happier. There are worse things than being bored -- and being right tops the worse-things list, in my book.
My opinion doesn't really matter because I am sitting a long way away from the action, although what happens in the States affects us to some extent too.
ReplyDeleteMr. Obama comes across as someone cultured and civilised, an intellectual, a man with the best of motives and a genuine interest in the wellbeing of all Americans. No screaming hysteric, no creep who permanently has his fingers crossed behind his back while he's uttering platitudes and false promises.
Call that a politician?
Very well stated, Nance. I'm not going to mince words and pretend I'm not disappointed with Obama's performance on certain issues. Nonetheless, he is the only reasonable candidate we've got and anything else will be nothing short of a disaster for this county. People easily forget the mess Obama stepped into after 8 years of Bush - 8 years that resulted in a shameless and systematic boost to the wealthy at the expense of both the poor and the middle class, not to mention an unprecedented gutting of the constitution (PATRIOT Act) and a near destruction of the principle of separation of powers. Bush was a rather goofy dictator, wasn't he?
ReplyDeleteOf course my vote may count for little in my red-sphincter Utah theocracy, but at least Obama will carry Park City.
"County" should be "country." I need to start proofreading before I post.
ReplyDeleteNance, I love your analogy about the chess board. I wish more people remembered how Obama's cool and cerebral approach seemed so appealing after 8 years of W.
ReplyDeleteI'm trying to maintain a positive approach to this because I think electing any of the current Republican candidates would be a disaster. But I do believe that while many are dissatisfied, most Democrats who turn out to vote will vote for Obama. (I admit there probably won't be as much of a turn out this time.) But I do think there is an uncharacteristic state of disarray among the Republicans. Signs like David Brooks' columns, the WSJ's endorsement of Huntsman's economic plan on its editorial page, and your above quote from Huckabee, seem to indicate more discord than usual. (Hello? Huckabee?)
Yes, JES, we do have a tendency to eat our young.
ReplyDeleteI scare myself when Ron Paul sounds sensible.... Mr. Obama can be as cerebral as he wants right now, as we watch the Republicans carve a tiny little box for themselves over there in the corner. Once they have to actually speak to me instead of to one another, then I will start to pay more attention, Nance.
For now, my bumper sticker - OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 - is about as much as I can manage.
a/b
Troubled posting today. You must have hit a nerve, I had difficulty leaving a comment. I for one have grown tired of the partisan bashing.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter lives in Eric Cantor's district and she is often angry about what she hears he has said, only to check it out later and find out he was misquoted more often than not. In my family, we are mostly Independent voters who hate negative politics. I only listen to Mike Huckabee once in a while, but he strikes me as a sensible man (mainly because he isn't running for President).
As far as Mr Obama, I didn't vote for him, but I know his job is tough and he really did not have the experience he needed for the job. The more he moves to the center the better I like him. I don't like that he recently overruled the EPA, but I think (hope) he had good reasons to do that.
I voted Democrat for years, and still do at the state and local level. I love my Senators Warner and Webb, and am sad to see Webb is retiring. I dislike my local Representative (D). I try to read material from all directions. I am a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, although the social part does not include all kinds of behavior. I think both Ron Paul and Bernie Saunders are scary. Dennis Kuchsinic is amusing.
BTW Bachman is toast, Perry only has about 30% of the tea party people (who are citizens like you and me), and Romney is a big question mark. No white knights I can see from where I sit. Dianne
Don't get me wrong, I royally mad at the guy for being to accommodating with the republicans but I am not suicidal. I will vote for him in 2012.
ReplyDeleteI like your points about the military mindset but I meant mine strictly in the context of the political arena. Both the jackass Scarborough and Bill Maher have stated the point I was trying to make about how any president, republican or democrat, either owns Washington or its owns him or her.
I just reposted a portion of this on Cogitamus blog. Hope you don't mind. Actually, if you ever think of running, I'd vote for you.
ReplyDeleteI, like others here, feel disappointed in Obama, too. However, I will vote for him next year but am going to concentrate my efforts on We Are Ohio and the Congressional campaign -- we have a Tea Party Congressman who needs to go back to the snobby suburb he came from! And then I'm going after Governor Kasich.
ReplyDeleteI constantly complain on my blog about Obama's view of nuclear power as "clean energy," but I've donated to his campaign just enough that I'm on the daily email list and I can send him a letter every single day about the issue. Today was the first day I got a semi-response from his campaign team. I just want him to know how much people care about this issue. But the Republicans are far worse on the environment, even though Obama hasn't done much at all. My spouse says: "There isn't always someone to vote for, but there is always someone to vote against." Right there is a reason not to abstain.
ReplyDeleteNance, I love the chess analogy! It perfectly sums up the game of politics, because it is a complex game and the best competitor is one who relies on intellectually considered strategic moves and not throwing the game board across the room. I am so looking forward to reading your Landscaping 2012 series. You also have great readers, such interesting comments!
ReplyDeleteWill be interesting to see what, if anything, Obama can accomplish since the Republican Party has clearly and repeatedly stated their primary goal is (and has been since his election) to simply to do everything they can to prevent any accomplishments that might contribute to re-electing this current President. It's all about power and control. Unfortuntely, the best interests of the people and the nation are being sacrificed in the process. We all pay the high price for such a undemocratic approach to governance.
ReplyDeleteMy biggest fear is that the "disillusioned Democrats" will sit this next election out. It's happened before.
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